Ratings

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Feedback' started by argon_0, Mar 6, 2012.

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  1. argon_0 Member

    I am now subscribing to eight Forums. Six are not available for points at this moment , one I have just subscribed to and the other is my best bet to increase my rating which I have just gone to cap in hand for a rating. There are at least 4 Forums I am not able to subscribed to that I wish to be a a part of. One of these I am posting as a non postlooper regardless of their unavailability to a postlooper on a 3.95 score. With a rating that limits your available forum access and a reluctance of some forums to rate you so your rating can increase. What are the chances postloop can rexamined postloopers rating score?
  2. Ryan Staff

  3. argon_0 Member

    Thank you Ryan. Maybe I need to take a break from postloop for a while and post on those Forums I would prefer to be on. :)
  4. Guardian Active Member

    Once you start doing it for the cash you're ratings will fall. If you have a genuine interest in the subject of the forum, your posts will naturally be of higher quality and in turn receive a higher rating.

    Also, you can follow some guidelines here: http://www.postloop.com/support/index.php?threads/advice-for-posters.219/ for more help with bumping up your rating a bit.
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  5. argon_0 Member

    Thanks Guar dian for your support. I really do enjoy posting to sites easpecially those I am interested in. This whole rating system fails to deliver to those who prefer posting than earning points as the primary consideration. I am unable to post to those sites I am interested in because of my low rating which denies me access as a postlooper. I can though, post regardless of postloop, to those sites where my rating fails me. I don't need points as much as the enjoyment of posting. I will post on sites beyond my rating and not care about the point system from now on.
    Another problem is, it seems that Forum owners are somewhat reluctant to rate postloop posters which means the score you left the postloop Portal is the cross you must bear.
  6. Guardian Active Member

    I had a 4.9 rating for months and was still unable to post at some forums. That's all up to the owner. In my opinion the owners come first because they are the ones that pump money into the system. If an owner chooses not to allow me to post their, the post they miss out on is on them. You're right in saying owners do not rate often, and I am somewhat glad. I've had a few rate me after 5 posts and I am typically not happy with those, I prefer my overall rating to reflect. When you get a low rating and post to increase it, then the owner doesn't come back, you're stuck with that one, so it's a double edged sword. Be careful what you wish for.

    The system has come a long way and has been very flexible, but some things can backfire when implemented without due diligence. You'll get more ratings over time, it WILL happen. Just be patient.
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  7. argon_0 Member

    Thanks again Guar dian. I am flabbergastered why some Forum owners have such a high entrance exam for postloopers and the rest of the bunch don't give two hoots about rating. I do not wish to put up inferior material and hundreds of posts to earn points and wait to get rated by reluctant forum owners, as this seems to be encouraged. Rather than wait to be allowed on these Forums, I can post as a non postlooper and enjoy myself in a more relaxed fashion.
    This then seems to defeat some of the reason for me to continue with postloop if I can go away and post without a high rating and earning points is secondary to me. I will continue on two as a postlooper but have chosen 3 others as a non postlooper. I shall maintain patience for those two for a couple of months.:thumbsup:
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  8. Guardian Active Member

    I've had a few where I remained on after they were removed from Postloop because I enjoyed them. I post because I enjoy it, if I can earn points from it, then I'm cool with that too.

    Glad you have taken a different approach and still joined communities you do in fact enjoy despite not earning points.
  9. Pete Staff

    I've mentioned this a few times, maybe it would help you in your situation...... if there's a forum which you think you are particularly well suited to post in, but your rating isn't high enough to qualify, you can contact the forum owner and try to work something out. For example, if you were an avid antique bottle collector and wanted to post on my antiques forum, but your rating was a 3.9 and I have the minimum set for 4.0, I would be happy to temporarily lower the minimum rating to 3.9 so you could subscribe.

    You should also understand though, that the forum owners may have set the minimum rating high because they don't want any more Postloop members. I've been in that situation before with forums I've had in Postloop. I have some forums in the system that I'd be very eager to get new members who are passionate about the subject, and on the other hand I have had some in the system that it wouldn't really made a big difference to add another Postlooper. Forum owners will set the minimum rating according to a myriad of reasons, but it wouldn't hurt to open a dialogue with them.
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  10. argon_0 Member

    I would like to say that the support here is fantastic and it is a good reason to continue. It does make sense to restrict postloop members if a forum is doing well. I did approach the Forum I have been posting on for the last 5 weeks but I did not get a reply but will continue to contribute there as I am very interested in that forum. I will remain patient as I really enjoy the challenge.
  11. Sacto Forum & Blog Owners

    True Pete, when I've raised my minimum rating it's been more because I already have as many active posters as I want, and adding more would just drain points at a rate beyond what I can manage. So I set it high enough that new members come in less often, the higher quality level being an indirect benefit. I feel bad that it cuts so many off but it's supply and demand. I would consider exceptions if someone could send links to examples of high quality postings however it would be difficult to schedule lowering the minimum such that it didn't let in others as well.

    The only other solution that I can think of is if I could assign each poster a unique daily posting cap. My best trusted posters could have larger caps, and new people could have a much lower cap which I'd only raise if I liked their posts. Posters would have an incentive to make better posts in the hopes of getting their cap raised.
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  12. dojo Forum & Blog Owners

    I have contacted a forum owner to allow lower ratings (I had 4.4 back then and the requirement was 4.8 or something like this). I was very suited for the forum, since it's a pet community and guess what, I have 2 :D

    The owner hasn't responded, so this doesn't always work.

    As a forum owner myself I have set the rating limit to 4.5 so that I can keep my best members only. I have the kind of a forum that could get 1000 posts/day from postloop, but I couldn't sustain this financially, not to mention I use postloop to 'spice' things up, since I have already some very active members who are not from here. So this way I was able to reduce the activity I get daily from here and also keep my best members around.
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  13. Rob Fritz Forum & Blog Owners

    Sorry for the inquiry Ryan as I saw your link above. When one gets a low rating that kills an average and that site no longer exists then that rating should be removed shouldn't it? The issue that I have is the the few forums that I am interested in posting on require 4.5 or higher. My average without the single rating is above the 4.5. Now I am busy working full time and managing several forums so posting on Post Loop forums is done for forums that actually offer me something. So my suggestions are two.

    1. If a previous forum is no longer a PL member then their ratings should drop.
    2. Ratings should maybe be based on a series of yes or no answers. The questions can be weighted to calculate the final rating but this way the arbitrary nature of the rating system is made fairer.
    The person that gave me the 3.7 was probably more accurate because it was close to a great. For some reason though, we as humans tend towards the 5.
  14. Ryan Staff

    That's how the cookie crumbles.

    Just because a forum is or is not still listed at Postloop should have absolutely no impact on whether or not that rating is still valid. You did receive that rating for a reason. You made the posts that ultimately resulted in the rating. Just because the person who gave you the rating leaves doesn't mean that the rating does as well. Before you convince yourself otherwise, think about what this would mean for the high ratings that you received as well. Are you okay losing a rating of 5 that you received when that forum owner "leaves"? I put that in quotes, because defining when a forum owner "leaves" would be a feat in itself. 2 of the 3 perfect ratings that you've received are from people who no longer use Postloop. If the 3.7 rating went away for that reason, so would those two 5 ratings. Ratings only expire based on the time they were given, and that is how it should work.

    Your second suggestion does nothing but introduce barriers that will make things even more complex.

    The rating system works.
  15. Rob Fritz Forum & Blog Owners

    First off please note that I did say that the rating of 3.7 is much more accurate.
    Of course I did. That wasn't being argued. But when you say reason it implies that there are some set in place ground rules which there aren't.

    How my second suggestion can make things more complex is beyond me though. Right now, your interpretation of a 4 post and mine and the guy down the street can all be different. If the poster and the forum owner understand from the beginning just what defines a rating, then the system would be fairer. I have set in my mind how I rate my posters but this is my interpretation. I am not trying to argue with you here but rather express something that I would like to suggest gets reviewed at some time.

    If it was clearer what constitutes a 3 or 4 or 5, then I think you would see the minimum rating setting for forums decrease. For me not to get spammed by less than adequate posts, I have to set my rating high. In my opinion though, I haven't found nor am I myself, a poster who would really fall into a category of darn close to excellent. Yet there are good forums listed that require higher than a 4.5 to access.

    Again, this isn't arguing with you but I am trying to engage in a discussion.

    Edit: I have yet to understand though, just how long before a rating drops? This was from September 2011.
  16. Ryan Staff

    Hence why your effective rating is an average and does not hinge on any single rating.

    Maybe, just maybe, those forum owners who have a 4.5+ minimum receive enough posts as-is from people who actually do have a 4.5+. Maybe you are not the best writer at Postloop, and these forum owners only want the best? There have been some people who set their minimum rating to 5, which is ultimately them saying they do not want any more writers at the time. There is nothing wrong with that.

    This statement is ironic, because you have given out so many "5" ratings, and the average rating that you give out is 4.7. If you can't find writers who are close to excellent, then you should not be giving ratings that are close to excellent.

    The original intent of this thread has come and gone, and I also have a hard time having a discussion with somebody with a rating far above average who also has not received a rating in over 9 months. So I'm closing the thread.

    If you wish to open a new thread, you can. Rating suggestion threads are a dime a dozen here though.
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